REPOSTED: PP editor: I don’t know if it was a hoax or not, I just thought this was very interesting. Decide for yourself! Do your own research. But let’s begin with the clip of THE Apollo 11 CONFERENCE OF THESE THREE RAGING ENTHUSIASTIC VICTORIOUS “LINDBERGHS” OF SPACE, WHO JUST COULDN’T STOP SMILING TRIUMPHANTLY OVER THEIR UNIQUE SUCCESS HAVING A HARD TIME TRYING NOT TO GLOAT IN PRIDE THAT THEY HAD BEEN THE FIRST MOON WALKERS! YEAH!! SUCH OVERCOMING VICTORS!
(Was there someone in the audience attentively listening to them… with a gun?)
As a man of science, I started my enlightenment to the lies and frauds of history, and to the evil forces out for our enslavement, by discovering some 32 years ago (I really cannot believe it has been that long!) that we absolutely did not and could never put men on the moon. I researched the facts early on, and came to the conclusion that what NASA sold to the American public, and the entire world, was total nonsense and hogwash.
The problem that NASA has always had, and what I learned early on, was space radiation. The existing technology of the 1960′s could not properly shield any Astronauts from first the deadly radiation they would encounter in the Van Allen Radiation Belts, and secondly from the deadly radiation in both interstellar space and on the moon itself! What happened in the 1960′s was that the government and NASA both realized that they could not solve the radiation problem, and therefore meet JFK’s desire to land a man on the moon by 1971. Rather than admit defeat, they decided to fake the entire Moon missions through a clandestine operation called the Apollo Simulation Project (ASP).
In my own research, I found something that was extremely puzzling about the audio/video recordings of the “Astronauts” on the “Lunar” surface when they were in contact with Mission control on Earth. For years I could not put my finger on it… But what I discovered hit me like a ton of bricks… The audio delay in the Earth-Moon transmissions was much too short for coming from the moon. In fact, the lack of delay means that these “Astronauts” were right here safe on Earth the whole time!
Recently, when I did a podcast with Whitewraithe, I described in simple terms for the listening audience how the Earth-Moon distance is approximately 241,000 miles, or 1.26x the speed of light. This means that any audio/visual transmissions would have to have at LEAST a 1.26 second DELAY in first the transmit direction, and a further 1.26 second DELAY in the receive direction back on Earth. This 2.52+ second (minimum) delay does not also incorporate other factors, like the time for the full context of the message to be sent, then diagnosed by the human brain, and finally responded by the “Astronauts” as a verbal reply.
What I found in the original Apollo landing videos was that the audio response was too QUICK to account for the Earth-Moon delay due to the speed of light! When I began to listen to more audio on other Moon Landing videos, I came to the realization that NASA blew it big time by not factoring in the audio delays…. THIS exposed the entire missions as totally fraudulent!
For those that do not understand how this exposes Apollo as a total fraud, I want to present the following article from the website: AndrewLongham.com, at http://andrewlongman.com/?p=443 entitled: “Earth-Moon Delay: Wrong?”. I have this entire report by Andrew Longham right here that blows NASA out of the water and shows how they purposely ALTERED the NASA tapes at a later date to try to “correct” them for the audio delay… I do have some additional comments to follow:
Earth-Moon delay: wrong?
Light, the ultimate speedster, travels at 2.99 x 10^8 meters per second, or about 186,000 miles per second. Fast, but not infinite. The silvery moon light you see on a cloudless night left the craggy surface of the moon 1.26 seconds previous.I have been an admirer of the moon, honestly, not for its natural beauty, but for the symbol of achievement it has become in the matter of science and spaceflight. Having worked in science and engineering fields, the lunar missions take on a kind of professional glow, a bright light of conquest. It’s a warm glow to think of “our guys” having done “all that”.I am a Purdue alum, and Purdue’s most famous alum is Neil Armstrong. I have wondered for years why it was that 40 years on, Purdue could never get around to honoring the most famous person in the world. The words were taken from my mouth when, finally, they dedicated the Neil Armstrong Hall of Engineering just recently. Purdue’s history is loaded with astronauts, and many showed up, including Armstrong, Cernan, and others. They gave speeches and sat in the front row, next to a statue of Neil. I went, and was totally jazzed by the whole thing.So, you know, I’m not a natural prejudice for all the lunar-hoax business that is out there. I have spoken to friends and colleagues about the importance of a manned mission to mars. I tended to believe in America’s technical prowess as a civilisational achievement, a happy thing, one of those bright spots in life that gives you happiness.So, its been with a critical eye that I’ve looked around at what people offer as evidence that the Apollo moonscapes were shot on a sound stage. It seemed a ridiculous nay-saying to me. An absurd argument of the kook-fringe. Most of the arguments I’ve looked at in mild curiosity seemed silly. The physicist in me was aroused, and I thought that the claims should be easy to debunk.For example, the Moon’s acceleration due to gravity is well known. In the videos, an astronaut drops a feather and a hammer from rib-cage height. If on the moon, in the video, the time it takes to hit the ground, from a known height, should be calculable, and different than the earth. I watched. I measured. I calculated. It was about correct. But thinking about it, the effect could be achieved by playing with the speed of film shot on earth. So this proved only that if there were a hoax, a bunch of physicists or engineers were in on it. No gain.Then I thought of something equally simple. Radio waves travel at the speed of light. Any live communication with the earth, between Apollo 11 and Houston, would have to have the precise Earth-Moon delay in the conversations. No problem, I thought. Just listen, measure, and compare.
If this is the definitive live record -We have this -“Columbia, Columbia, this is Houston, AOS, over.”
[1.07 second pause]“Houston, Columbia…”The pause ought to be 2.51 seconds – minimum. That’s 1.258 seconds for the message to go out, and 1.258 for it to come back, if the astronaut replied instantly. If both Houston (H) and Columbia (C) spoke instantly, and both continually spoke without interrupting each other, you would see a pattern, if recorded on earth, like this:
A pause of 1.07 seconds would be a distance between Earth and Columbia of 159,965 kilometers, or 42% of the journey to the moon. Had Columbia begun her reply in order for the message to arrive at the time recorded in this record, she would have had to start speaking when Houston was saying “Columbia, Columbia.” But etiquette and standard practice is to wait until the “over”. When you listen to the record, it sounds like a natural conversation, with everybody saying “over” at the end, to punctuate the communication, wait for the other party to speak. But the pattern continues.
“I guess you’re about the only person around that doesn’t have TV coverage of the scene.”
[1.07 second pause]
“That’s alright, I don’t mind a bit.”
In order for “That’s alright” to arrive on earth 2.5 seconds after transmission, Columbia would have had to utter it when Houston was speaking the word “doesn’t.” It would have been like this at the Columbia end:
“I guess you’re about the only person around that doe-That’s alright I don’t mind a bit.”
Talk about completing each others’ sentences!
But what really attracted my attention is that in the “brand new” and “refurbished” NASA video of the same situation, the pauses are the right length.
“I guess you’re about the only person around that doesn’t have TV coverage of the scene.”
[3.37 second pause]
“That’s alright, I don’t mind a bit.”
More, there is an echo-artifact stuck in the middle, in-between “scene” and “That’s alright”. It’s an
“echo” of “the scene”. It arrives at a perfect 2.62 seconds after being uttered, exactly the time it would take to moon bounce. It’s “perfect”. Here is the “refurbished” audio, showing the end of the sentence, and the echoed word “scene”.
The problem is that neither the pause nor the echo in the “original” version was there. The proper signature delay is only there in the “new and improved” version.
NTS Note: At this point, it should be quite obvious to anyone that NASA purposely altered the original version with this startling evidence!
What’s clear, if I am indeed working with the original audio footage, is that the original recording could not possibly have been a live conversation between the earth and the moon. Physics defies it. You cannot travel faster than the speed of light with a radio packet, and these recordings clearly show communication with a delay that is 42% of the value it should be.
And it’s clear that the new and improved version has delays that are just right, to sound as though they were between the earth and the moon, complete with a little moon-reflection to “prove” that they were exactly “that distance” away, along with a human pause before replying.
Of course, the easiest explanation is that I simply got ahold of a piece of audio which had all the silence edited out, trimmed for presentation. It’s normal practice, and hardly a conspiracy. But the video on youtube is labeled as original rendering, and it seems that way in the fine-grain of the audio. The static is continuous, there are no abrupt transitions, and the human conversation has a very natural rhythm, cadence.
At first, it seems this would be easy to settle. Hundreds of people with audio editors and original recordings all over the world can measure it and post their findings to the internet, along with a detailed description of the origin of their recording.
But this has been complicated. NASA apparently rounded up many of the original television tape recordings in order to make their “new and improved” versions. People who possessed them previously no longer do. Then NASA says it thinks it destroyed the original tape.
Everyone who has original, live, as-aired audio of conversations between earth and the moon should post them, and begin to measure the time delay between transmissions. They should also make copies of their as-aired original, and keep track of it. The transmissions were recorded on earth, so the time delay between Columbia’s audio and Houston’s reply can be zero. But the audio delay between Houston’s statement and Columbia’s reply needs to be 2.51 seconds. 1.258 to go out. 1.258 to come back. Minimum.
One last word. The origin of the delay we expect is physics. It is the most established physics in the world. We are not talking about equipment delay, or digital delay, or what have you. Physics requires that no signal, of any kind, can make the trip faster than 1.258 seconds, closest edge to closest edge, using the average distance earth to moon. There is a little variation in, for example, edge of earth to edge of moon, as opposed to most direct path, but these would make the time lag longer, not shorter.
The other citeable source of distance variation is the natural gravitational apogee and perigree. Two published values for these distances are 357250 km and 406628 km. Assuming the shortest path
Distance, and the moon closest to the earth, at 357,250km, this would represent a 5% change in our stated numbers above, or about 6/100ths of a second. So, we can safely make this statement.
Neglecting atmospheric attenuation, the minimum time of travel for any radio communication from the surface of the earth to the surface of the moon is 1.26 seconds +/- 6%.
Trying to find original live recordings on youtube has become difficult. One lengthy video, which had a lot of discussion of the delay issue, has vanished.
I offer this discourse to my readership as a challenging puzzle.
NTS Notes: This is not a challenging puzzle at all… If you consider that these criminals purposely altered the data and the audio to fit their neat little lie of the Apollo moon landings.
No matter what the Apollo believers can say and scream about, the laws of physics cannot be changed. The speed of light in a vacuum did not magically and suddenly speed up for the Apollo missions.
Andrew Longham does not come out and say it, but I will… NASA purposely altered the audio recordings to try to make them fit in with the Earth-Moon transmission delay a long time after the actual “landings” took place. THIS type of criminality on the part of NASA should finally make even the most ardent believers in Apollo realize that they have been had.
NASA lied to America with Project Apollo, and bilked some 40 BILLION DOLLARS out of US taxpayers in the 1960′s-1970′s. It is high time that everyone take these criminals to task for this outright lie of history and expose for their criminal wrongdoing.
I want to thank my friend, Gregg, aka..”pt1gard” for bringing this Andrew Longham article to my attention, and thus vindicating again what I have long known about the faked Apollo moon landings.
There are those out there that have said recently that I have abandoned my stance on Project Apollo as being a fraud… I say to them that I never left, and never abandoned efforts for the truth to be known. And now I am back!
More to come
Some More: Another Hoax Video?
Rare NASA footage of Apollo 11 Astronauts Staging Part of Moon Mission
No man has ever ascended higher than 300 miles, if that high, above the Earth’s surface. No man has ever orbited, landed on, or walked upon the moon in any publicly known space program. If man has ever truly been to the moon it has been done in secret and with a far different technology.
The tremendous radiation encountered in the Van Allen Belt, solar radiation, cosmic radiation, temperature control, and many other problems connected with space travel prevent living organisms leaving our atmosphere with our known level of technology. Any intelligent high school student with a basic physics book can prove NASA faked the Apollo moon landings.
If you doubt this please explain how the astronauts walked upon the moon’s surface enclosed in a space suit in full sunlight absorbing a minimum of 265 degrees of heat surrounded by a vacuum. NASA tells us the moon has no atmosphere and that the astronauts were surrounded by the vacuum of space.
C. Fred Kleinknect, head of NASA at the time of the Apollo Space Program, is now the Sovereign Grand Commander of the Council of the 33rd Degree of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry of the Southern Jurisdiction. It was his reward for pulling it off.
All of the first astronauts were Freemasons. There is a photograph in the House of the Temple in Washington DC of Neil Armstrong on the moon’s surface (supposedly) in his spacesuit holding his Masonic Apron in front of his groin.
This is supposed to be a view of the Earth:
Is it another planet??